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California League to go to Class AA?

There are rumors that the California League may seek Class AA status in the future and launch a new league at the Class A level in towns like Salinas and Chico. More details at...

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Rohnert Park was being discussed as a possible destination for the Visalia Oaks franchise when Tom Seidler took over in the Visalia-Stockton ownership swap. But that fell through, and some money has...

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There are still people willing to lose money on Indy Leagues in California?!? I am shocked that folks haven't realized that Indy League baseball is virtuallly impossible to make work. With...

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Quote:There are still people willing to lose money on Indy Leagues in California?!? There are actually two groups looking to launch in 2004. I do think that there are some markets, like Chico and...

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Quote:With $75,000-$100,000 minimum in player salaries, you have to draw a lot of fans (somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,500) to make a profitFeh. The original budget for the Northern League had a...

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Perhaps not as much as 2,500 fans, but significantly more than 800. Of course there are a lot of different variables involved like how successful the team is in selling signage and program...

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A few things about the proposed leagues in California...One or both leagues may take the approach of the Frontier and become a developmental circuit. By serving as an entry-level opportunity with more...

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I'm still skeptical. Your $50,000-$100,000 savings over the WBL model is a best case scenario. And even then the league as a whole will have to average 1,500 fans per game minimum just to break even....

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I would agree with NWL Lover with respect to the attendance of those who enjoy new stadiums with the exception of San Jose. They are currently averaging 2,312, good for fourth in the league. They have...

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The SJ Giants website boasts of having their 2nd highest season attendance in history this year. That is an attempt at masking the fact that 2,312 fans per game in San Jose in that size of market is...

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At least the management in Visalia tries. Two years ago in Bakersfield, the city made new ownership of the franchise a condition of their approval of a new stadium. For a while they had a buyer and...

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Visalia had a great season this year. I believe our renovations were successful and yes, management did try! Thanks for noticing and sticking up for one of the California League's 10 jewels.

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Another thing I'd like to say about the Visalia management........they stock size 8 caps for my fat head ! Thanks ! For my money they have the best logo in minor league baseball.

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but I think the Cal League could and I repeat could become a AA league. Why? The eight western MLB teams want and need a AA league closer to the West Coast.The Giants can't be happy having their High...

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I can only think of two stadiums in the league that could qualify as AA facilities. Several don't really meet the requirements for A ball.But I agree.........why should all three AA leagues be East of...

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"but I think the Cal League could and I repeat could become a AA league. Why? The eight western MLB teams want and need a AA league closer to the West Coast."I doubt that the Diamondbacks feel too put...

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Sure the DBacks like being in El Paso and the Rockies in Tulsa. But did you miss the Giants being in Conn? Or the Padres? And while I know why the Dodgers have their AA in Jacksonville, sooner or...

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"Sure the DBacks like being in El Paso and the Rockies in Tulsa. But did you miss the Giants being in Conn? Or the Padres? And while I know why the Dodgers have their AA in Jacksonville, sooner or...

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all that time on your hands why don't you read Baseball America or ask BA about realignment in the minors. The minors are a profitable business because the owners are able to control costs. Taking a...

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Quote:all that time on your hands why don't you read Baseball America or ask BA about realignment in the minors.I am sure you did not mean to be as impolite as this response sounds; Richard took the...

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"Quote:Taking a bus from the South Atlantic region to New Jersey doesn't help the owners control costs. Then how do Sally League teams stay profitable?"Through the miracle of unbalanced scheduling....

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